Northern Kentucky JP12

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Re: Northern Kentucky JP12

Post by cptcrunch » November 9th, 2014, 2:24 pm

fantomas wrote:Looks amazing! Congrats on the paint being done. just in time for winter though :(
Thanks! And yeah just in time for the winter :( I'll still drive it around a bit during the winter, but my DD has heated seats and steering wheel so I dont know how much I'll drive it when it gets really cold.
walke2jd wrote:Looks fantastic. What did the paint job end up costing you? I am trying to figure out if I should salvage my stock paint or get a new paint job done, and cost is the biggest factor.
The price for this paint job was pretty expensive. Mostly because the Jeep had 3 layers of paint including a Maaco job where they did a poor job. They didn't remove parts, so the paint and clear coat went over seals, fender flares and other parts where it shouldn't have been. He also had to drill out some bolts, take off the fender flares and grill that I had no experience doing. So it was expensive and I'd rather not think about it :(

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Re: Northern Kentucky JP12

Post by cptcrunch » November 9th, 2014, 2:30 pm

Lots of updates coming! Since the Jeep has been painted, reassembly has begun. Its been a flurry of activity and frustration as lots of bolts were either lost or mismarked in the last 8 months. So it has been a lot of "lets put x y z on today. Well we are missing parts to X and Z so lets get Y done and move onto A and C done". Lots of bolts off of ebay, junkyard runs that were a waste of time (the YJ they had was picked over 3 times before I got there) and new parts over the last month.

During that time, I started to work on the Jabsco overhead lights. As you saw in a previous update, I 3D printed some of the custom parts, the ring and attachments, with a redesign necessary. The redesign was done pretty quickly after the test fit and I received those parts a few weeks later. I had the ring painted with the rest of the red on the Jeep to match the body color and started to work on the base.

Here is the base build:

I've made some very nice friends on the jurassicparkjeep.com forums that helped gather a list of what was needed to make the lights as movie accurate as possible. I went to Pepboys a few times to get some parts needed, along with some eBay and Homedepot purchases.

Here is all of the parts I needed to build the base (not including black plastidip).

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The parts here are Pepboys body molding, 10 Tirestems from eBay, 1 12"x12"x.6" thick plastic sheet from eBay, windshield wiper spray tubing, and a good beer.

First thing was to cut 1" x 2" rectangle pieces from the black plastic sheet from eBay. I marked out the lines and scored them pretty heavily. I then snapped the plastic sheet against some wood to make some nice even lines. I then used a 3/4" drill bit on a press to drill a hole in the center of the rectangle piece

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The tirestems fit perfectly in the 3/4" hole. The tirestems are needed to complete some of the cosmetic parts of the light

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I then cut 15" lengths of the windshield spray tubing to go from one tirestem to another to complete the black wire as seen in the movie (you can see the movie used Jeep at the Islands of Adventures in Florida to the right). I chose 15" because that was a good length to ensure the light has free movement left and right because the light can turn 320 degrees left and right.

I did a quick test fit of the plastic piece to make sure it was going to fit properly and to get a feel of placement on the rear of the base

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The windshield spray tubing fits perfectly into the tirestem opening. I had to take the tirestems to Pepboys and try different sizes to make sure I got the one that fit snug. This is a test piece to see how strong the hot glue was going to hold the cables.

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Here is the final test before I started gluing

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I'll admit that I felt like cheating using the hot glue gun, but I didn't feel that I had a better alternative to make sure these pieces held to the light. I'll know more in a year on how they hold up and can always rebuild these if necessary

Next was cutting the auto body molding that I am going to use as the ribbed pieces that go around the base and end at the plastic rectangle piece. These I cut to an undetermined size because I would make minor adjustments as I attached them to the base. They came with double sided sticky tape for easy installation. After I installed the top and bottom pieces I measured the difference between the two to get a better idea where the middle needed to go.

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Final placement for the first base of the tirestem, plastic rectangle and 3 body molding pieces. It turned out really well!

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After building all 4 bases, they needed to be painted or plastidipped black. I disassembled the base easily making note of the wires and motor placement

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It was late so I did the first coat inside to get a feel of how they would look. I would do the other 3 bases and more coats outside where overspray was not a concern

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This is what the inside wiring and motor looks like. The light itself is pretty impressive. It can rotate 320 degrees left and right and 70 degrees up and down. They are considered marine grade lights, normally installed on boats and vehicles requiring adjustable lights

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Heres what the base looked like painted and reassembled :D

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Re: Northern Kentucky JP12

Post by cptcrunch » November 9th, 2014, 9:00 pm

After the base, I moved to assembling the ring and its attachments before final assembly. I wanted these made so when it was time to work on the Jeep, I could have an extra hand or two to help secure the ring to the light correctly.

Again, lots of tools and specialty pieces were needed for this process. You can see the rings better in the following pictures after they were redesigned and painted.

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The first thing I had to was to find the middle of the attachments so I can easily mark the rest. I used this as a template so I didn't have to mark each individually. I would hold the template up to one attachment and drill through that so the hole matched on all. It didn't take long, but I was definitely glad to be done with all 20 attachments that needed to be drilled.

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The hex cap screws I used were the #8 x 32 x 1/2". When designing the attachments I made sure to account for the screw size and the height of the ring so I could find a screw that would be an appropriate size to go through the attachment but not all the way through the ring. 1/2" ended up being perfect. I hot glued the attachment to the ring so that a) it would make a stronger connection than just being held together with the screw and b) to hold the attachments in place during the assembly.

After the attachment was hot glued, I then drilled through the existing hole into the ring. I marked my drill bit with some painters tape so I had a marker on how far I needed to drill without going through the ring completely. This was very helpful, especially needing to drill 20 of these holes.

One thing I found while assembling everything is that if you tightened the screw too much, you would crack the attachment housing. I made that mistake once or twice, so I was glad I had extras when needed.

This is what the ring build looks like after everything was said and done:

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I did a quick dry fit to ensure everything looked good. This is where you can really see the redesigned ring and how everything is going to look once together

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Side note: I know the attachments need painting. That will come in spring when I have better weather and the paint.

On Saturday after some reassembly (updates coming) we moved to final light assembly. The next part was to attach the ring build to the light housing by using some #8 cap screws. Same build rules applied here, using the template I drilled a hole in each attachment facing the light housing and then had someone hold the ring in place while I drilled into the housing. We went slow to make sure everything lined up well. It didn't take long, but it was tedious to make sure everything was lined up correctly.

Here are the final build results for the lights :D

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After building the lights we wanted to get them mounted and wires run before we called it quits for the day.

Here is the first installed

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Running 4 sets of wires through the lightbar was a challenge. We tried a few methods until the tried and true metal fishtape worked best. We were afraid of scratching the paint and just doing overall paint damage, but we worked slowly and the Jeep cam out damage free.

Heres the look now with all of them installed with wires run through the lightbar.

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I'm glad to see the lights done. Custom creating the ring and attachments, having them painted both body color and red, finding custom parts, custom part assembly and the constant fear of ruining over $1,000 worth of equipment, was challenging. I know the attachments need to be painted red and body color, and the cap screws I purchased from Home Depot are silver instead of black. I'll take care of all of that in the spring when I have better weather and paint back from the painter (he is going to fix some minor issues when spring rolls around).

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Re: Northern Kentucky JP12

Post by heartyfield » November 12th, 2014, 4:34 pm

The light brush guards came out really nice. Great job!
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Re: Northern Kentucky JP12

Post by Cyrix9445 » November 18th, 2014, 11:08 pm

^Agreed!

Great job!
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Re: Northern Kentucky JP12

Post by cptcrunch » November 20th, 2014, 10:00 pm

heartyfield wrote:The light brush guards came out really nice. Great job!
Cyrix9445 wrote:^Agreed!

Great job!
Thanks guys. I too thought they came out really well. I'm very happy with them. If anyone wants the .stl (3d printer) files, send me a PM and I'll send them to you

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Post by cptcrunch » November 20th, 2014, 11:08 pm

Reassembly has begun!

After trailering the Jeep from the painter, it was time to take inventory of what we needed to do, and what parts we had. We did an o.k. job marking all of the bolts, nuts, and various pieces when we disassembled everything earlier this year, but not good enough. We were constantly searching for parts, or bolts and everything in between when reassembling some areas. I definitely learned that I need a better part marking system on the next vehicle I disassemble. This definitely played its part in a few delays we experienced as we were waiting on parts or making multiple trips to the hardware store.

One of the first things we worked on was the doors. And immediately we had a problem. While inserting the door locking cylinders, we damaged the paint. UGH. The paint was so fresh and thick enough that I was unable to seat the cylinder without issues. While trying to shove in the cylinder (with care, I swear!) this happened:

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So, delay 1, on day 1. :( I called the painter and he offered to fix it. I brought the door to him with the locking cylinder and he touched up the area, filed down some parts and installed the cylinder. Not a great start.

While we had wanted to start at the rear and move forward, our missing parts required us to jump around while parts were available. So after the door damage, we moved onto the light bar. Problem here also. The bar wasn't square, so it was not lining up with the windshield frame. I called my blacksmith friend (hes the one who welded everything together) and had him help out. He bent everything together in about 5 minutes, and we were good.

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I think the Jeep looked a lot better with the lightbar. Almost if the lightbar is a missing accessory. Along with the lightbar, we installed the black rubber side step pieces.

Wanting to take the Jeep on our annual camping trip, I needed a trailer hitch. The Jeep is only rated for 2,000 so I wont be towing much, just a small trailer with supplies. One thing I wanted with the trailer hitch was retention of the bumperettes. A smittybilt JH44 2" class II looked promising. A quick order from SummitRacing proved that the pictures were correct. We installed the trailer hitch and bumperettes in one go. It was a challenge because the trailer hitch was super heavy and some bolts very difficult to reach.

After installing the trailer hitch and bumperettes, we worked on other rear parts. The tail lights, tire stop, tail gate tire protectors, rear tail gate seals and locking mechanisms. We also installed the stainless steel ball mount housing into the hole we drilled before the paint. The rear was mostly done at this point. Still needed to attach the tire carrier, find the bolts for the tail light housing and mount the rear fog lights.

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After working on the rear, we moved onto the roll bar padding. It was then that we noticed a missing zipper pull that went... somewhere? I'm pretty sure it was there 8 months ago. Oh well

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My coworker lives near the painter and knows him well, so he picked up the door for me about 2 weeks after I dropped it off. We reassembled the door locking mechanisms, and interior panels one evening. We did have to run to the Jeep dealership to get a small plastic piece that locks a metal bar into the external door latch. It had broken during disassembly and I had completely forgotten.

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I forgot to take pictures during the reassembly, but trust me, you aren't missing much.

After installing the rollbar padding, door reassembly, we reattached the doors with their new seals and got to work on the windshield. With the new windshield cowl seal, we really had to pull on the windshield frame to get it to line up with the roll bar. It took a little muscle, but we made it all fit. We tighten down all of the rollbar an windshield frame screws, and attached the windshield visors. We also attached the mirrors after installing the doors on the Jeep

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Some of the last installs needed were electrical based. Now, I work in IT, finished my basement, built retaining walls and can work on cars well enough, but auto electronics I know nothing about. My first thought was that the new lights needed to go through the electrical fuse box under the steering column, but I did some research and just bought a power distribution block. I ran a wire from the battery to the block and will tie all of the lights through it.

The winch was heavy and in the way, so we mounted that real quick. I have tow hooks that I was hoping to install on the front but the winch plate from Harbor Freight didn't have the clearance. I'll figure out what to do in the spring about that.

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The first lights we installed were the front Delta 100 fogs. These are aftermarket because the OEM are almost impossible to find (p.s. if you have a set, I am interested in buying them). These are xenon based and look very close to the OEM fogs that were an option on the Sahara models. We ran the wires easy enough to the lights, found a ground point, installed a switch and done.

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We left the rear fogs last because we had to run 20+ feet of wiring and as it was late in the day, we got lazy. Trying not to interfere with the rear tailgate, I did my best guess on where the rear fogs should go and drilled into the tail light housing (we found the bolts, btw, in the bucket of random bolts. We, uh, did not mark these)

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We drilled a small hold next to the bottom lightbulb to run a wire through the existing opening on the body. We drilled another small hole next to the mounting bracket for the fog light to run the positive wire. Nice these about these lights is that the mounting bracket acts as the ground point. So we drilled through the top of the light housing and through the huge existing ground plate and were done.

The final product of the rear light was one of the items I was excited to see. I never understood why the Jurassic Park Jeep designers put the rear fog lights on the Jeep, but I was always enamored by them. Seeing these installed made me a happy man! :)

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We cleaned up the interior yesterday in preparation for the soft top and interior install. The soft top install went, ok, but the cold temperatures and kinda subpar parts made for a tough install. We had a 65000 BTU forced air heater going and it definitely helped, but the Rampage top just has a few QC issues. I contacted them and they should be sending new parts soon, but unsurprisingly, it'll be a few d(el)ays.

So not many things left to do. We need to finish the soft top install, wire the overhead lights, wire the winch to the battery, install the interior and do a road test.

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Re: Northern Kentucky JP12

Post by weapon lxxxi » November 22nd, 2014, 9:27 am

Looking good well done!! Those rear ambers do set it off from the rear I love mine too!!

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