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Re: CT JP15

Post by fantomas » August 8th, 2014, 10:10 pm

Quick update before I go to bed. We masked off the stripes for the red, which will be painted tomorrow. I swear I'm usually a smart person, but for the life of me, the angles and some of the dimensions from COBrian's PDF weren't matching up. Therefore, instead of 72.5° for the angles, I had to use ~69°. Also, the front stripe instead of 13.75" ended up being 14". The rear stripe is still 13.75". I highly doubt 3° or .25" will make a difference, but it irks me I couldn't figure out why. Anyways, I had a digital angle level to find/verify the angles and I also used a laser which helped immensely. I don't think I would have followed the same lines without using a laser so I'm glad I had it.

Here's the laser rig I used. $5 Harbor Freight laser marker mounted on top of camera tripod:
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On the Jeep next to the tape:
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And masked off front and rears:
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Re: CT JP15

Post by fantomas » August 10th, 2014, 12:49 am

Andddd here we go! We decided to put the stencils on after getting it back to the shop. The vinyl used is apparently specifically for stencils, so we weren't sure how tacky it really was and we didn't want it to get deformed on the drive over. We get there and start scuffing up where the red is going and of course I realize we left the stencils at my father in laws house, so I had to take his truck and drive back and get them.

Masking everything off and adding the stencils. I'm fairly happy with the placement of the side numbers. I would have liked the driver's "15" to have been more towards the left but I was trying to avoid the vertical sections being on the seam between the two body panels. Looking back I guess it didn't really matter though.
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The red after the reducer, flattener, and something else was added. He added the same amount of flattener as he put in the tan so hopefully they both become the same sheen. I LOVE this color. It's the Jeep Radiant Fire from that year. Codes: RD/KRD #4279
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And the spraying begins.
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While he was spraying I took a look at this Maserati Bora that was tucked away. This poor poor neglected car. It's been in the lot waiting to be restored for a while now, hopefully they get to it sooner rather than later
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After he was done applying 3 coats, we had time to kill. I pointed out this car. It's a 1973 Stutz Blackhawk built from a Pontiac Grand Prix. The original owner was Sammy Davis Jr! The current owner brought it here to be restored. It would cost about $200,000 to get it back to the exact same condition it was in when it was delivered to Sammy.
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Sammy with the Stutz
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Enough of that, the paint finally set up enough for us to remove the tape. No matter how well you tape it down, paint will find it's way on to parts it doesn't belong. It's easy to wipe off the overspray with thinner immediately after painting so it wasn't a big deal. There were a number of spots that needed cleaning up, most peculiarly was the tail gate. Something about the air pressure pushed the paint vapors over or something. Anyways, all these pics were taken after everything was untaped and mostly cleaned up. Some of the lines, specifically the horizontal lines on the rear stripes came out kind of jagged. Both sides came out the same way even though we each taped each side. I also got a finger print on the "P" while taking off the hood stencil. There's nothing that can really be done about that. Hopefully when the red flattens out it won't be as noticeable.
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I love this red! Going to pick it back up later today and bring it back to the garage. Lots of work to get it put back together, but I'm super excited with how it turned out!

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Re: CT JP15

Post by usmercenary » August 10th, 2014, 10:04 am

that came out looking great dude. Love all those other cars you showed too that were on site
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Re: CT JP15

Post by cptcrunch » August 10th, 2014, 1:36 pm

Thats a great red! How did you measure the angles? Its almost time for me to do the same thing. I went to HF today to try and find your laser level and couldn't find it. Do you have a link on harborfreight.com?

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Re: CT JP15

Post by fantomas » August 10th, 2014, 2:23 pm

cptcrunch wrote:Thats a great red! How did you measure the angles? Its almost time for me to do the same thing. I went to HF today to try and find your laser level and couldn't find it. Do you have a link on harborfreight.com?
This is the laser. I want to say it was on the wall with all the drill bits and power tools accessories. I don't know how your store is set up, but I'm sure an employee can point you in the right direction. http://www.harborfreight.com/laser-marker-93242.html
And this is the digital angle finder I used http://www.harborfreight.com/16-inch-di ... 65451.html

The angles ended up being 69ish degrees instead of 72.5. I used the actual measurements in inches from COBrian's guide, and that's how I got that angle. The biggest thing is to just make sure both lines you mask off for each red stripe are parallel to each other. The hardest part to mask off was the bend on the hood that compounds into the angle. Just make sure everything is exactly how you want it... once the paint is on, there's no turning back.

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Re: CT JP15

Post by crayZcollegeKid » August 10th, 2014, 8:05 pm

Any chance you can upload the stencil specifications? I saw where you said that you went a size bigger for the hood decal and I like it. Also, where did you purchase the stencil paper? Thanks.
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Post by fantomas » August 10th, 2014, 11:24 pm

Yea, it may or may not be screen accurate, but since I'm not going 110% canon I figured I could take some liberties with a few things such as this and make it slightly larger to fill out the hood a bit more. I purchased the stencils from a local sign shop. I forget what I paid, but she said the vinyl was specifically for stenciling (so when you go to the sign shop ask them for that). I'm 99% sure this is the file I gave her. She had to convert it to a vector herself though. I'm fairly confident with photoshop etc but those vector programs are beyond me (for now!). Anyways, the black portion of the image is the actual vinyl, and I made it maybe 1" or 1.5" wider on all 4 sides for ease of masking the rest of the hood.
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Re: CT JP15

Post by COBrian » August 11th, 2014, 4:44 pm

If you measured the angle of the stripe from the floor, that may be why it is different. Every jeep will have different amounts of sag/lift based on the suspension when you go to layout the stripes. The measurements therefore are better to use. (just like you did.) The angles I calculated where based solely on the body lines, not from the floor. Looks Great.
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Re: CT JP15

Post by usmercenary » August 11th, 2014, 4:48 pm

Hey fantomas, love the way your paint came out. I'm also in Connecticut and was wondering if your paint guy (father in law?), or at least the same shop you used, would be willing to paint another JP jeep. My original paint plan fell through, so I am on the search for new options. Since yours came out great and we're in the same state, figures I might as well ask. Seems like you really know what you're doing in your whole project so it would be great to get some experienced insight. I also am interested in the shop you sourced your vinyl, if your happy with it. Thanks!

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Re: CT JP15

Post by fantomas » August 12th, 2014, 12:08 am

COBrian wrote:If you measured the angle of the stripe from the floor, that may be why it is different. Every jeep will have different amounts of sag/lift based on the suspension when you go to layout the stripes. The measurements therefore are better to use. (just like you did.) The angles I calculated where based solely on the body lines, not from the floor. Looks Great.
Thank you again for making the guide. Probably saved me HOURS of guessing. I love how the lines came out, I was just nervous because I couldn't figure out for the life of me why my angles and lines weren't matching up to yours (and I hadn't heard of anyone else having this problem). The thing is I wasn't using the floor as a reference point, I was using the body lines too.
usmercenary wrote:Hey fantomas, love the way your paint came out. I'm also in Connecticut and was wondering if your paint guy (father in law?), or at least the same shop you used, would be willing to paint another JP jeep. My original paint plan fell through, so I am on the search for new options. Since yours came out great and we're in the same state, figures I might as well ask. Seems like you really know what you're doing in your whole project so it would be great to get some experienced insight. I also am interested in the shop you sourced your vinyl, if your happy with it. Thanks!
Unfortunately this isn't really the type of thing this shop does, unless you have $$$ and don't mind waiting months. They've probably got a dozen restoration projects going on right now just in that building. And although my FIL sprayed my Jeep, it was more so as a family type of favor. Also, because we've been working on the Jeep for months at his house, he's been backlogged on other personal projects he needs to get done. I can ask him if he knows of any reliable automotive paint places around that you can use. What part of the state are you in?

The shop I had cut my vinyl is SignMart in Middletown http://www.signmartct.com/ They only cut the hood logo and side numbers though. The door logos she quoted me at $50 each, so I got them off eBay for like $36 for the pair. They also cut the vinyl for the East Dock sign I've slowly been working on.

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